Man of Steel (2013)

GoodFather on 7/10/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (0 likes)

Yeah, maybe if I see it again I might feel better about it. Overall, I liked it okay. I give it a 6/10.

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Lmao no

shane24 on 6/29/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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I think they were good friends at one stage. But the destruction of his planet made Zod desperate and crazy. I think part of him regrets killing him for this reason, but it shows that Zod will let nothing get in his way.

I heard many critics say they hated the look of Krypton, but I thought it was great! I even liked that creature he was flying that many people disliked.

What I didn't like was the dialogue in these scenes. 'I had a child, a boy child'. :D

SLionsCricket on 6/29/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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Yep, they were hinted to have been once good friends. "I'll honor the man you once were Zod...not this monster you've become" Yeah, the slow destruction of Krypton made Zod desperately want to save his race. I love how he kills that woman in the council and even takes out Jor-El, proving that nothing can stop him from achieving his goal. He had the motivation behind him but man, Faora....she was too cool!!!!

Yeah, I really liked Synder's vision of Krypton and the creatures and technology that existed there. Since the tech wasn't available back in 1978, its a welcome sight by now!

Your right, some of the dialogue was rather awkward especially Jor-El saying "We've had a child Zod..a boy child!" I mean, really...A boy child. I did however love the scene where Zod defies the council. That dialogue was great imo as well as Zod's banishment to the Phantom Zone. "I will find him, Laura. I WILL FIND HIM!"

Shane, what did you think of Michael Shannon in the film. I thought he was brilliant in the sequence on Krypton but underwhelming when he came to Earth. When he shouts "I WILL FIND HIM!", i thought that was just PERFECT! Emotion, desperation and hatred were felt perfectly. But later, i found him rather underwhelming.

Also, what did you think of Hans Zimmer's musical score. I've told you before how much I love John Williams' classic tunes he created, especially Superman which I listen everyday no matter what. I found Zimmer's score underwhelming to be honest. At times, it was AWESOME! At other times, it became distracting and felt like it was overpowering the film. I'll probably get around to re-watching the film over the week so my thoughts may change...What do you think?

shane24 on 6/29/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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I had a problem with the council sending them to the phantom zone. So, you send the evil people off the planet where they can live, while you all sit on the planet and die?! The phantom zone is supposed to be bad, yet they gave them technology capable of letting them escape! Why did no one else try to get off! They all just stood there until they died? I know Jor-El said that they had to stay because they failed- but I just didn't buy it, it was all just a fast sentence with no questions asked by Clark. Ask me to explain it better if you don't know what I mean. :)

I liked Michael Shannon fine for pretty much the whole movie. I never hated him, but sometimes his acting didn't stand out to me.

It sounded very much like his last few scores. A lot of bwaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!! :D I didn't hate it, but he's starting to be very similar.

I know it couldn't be a little girl(because superman would have to save her then) but how Jonathan Kent died kinda annoyed me! What, he went back, for a dog! He is an idiot! He died.....so a dog could live.....I was fine with him making Clark stop, but a dog! Why a dog?!

SLionsCricket on 6/29/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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I'll start with discussing the musical score. Hans Zimmer has created some fantastic ones. I felt that some parts of the score sounds WAY too much like TDKR. I actually wonder whether it is TDKR music.

As for Krypton, yeah I always found it stupid why jor-El (I'm also referring to older films) would dare to send Zod to the Phantom Zone if he is aware of the planet blowing up. I mean, if he is indeed a scientist...wouldn't he also realize that the destruction of the planet would free them. Yeah, in the previous films Zod and his men are released when Kal-El sends the missile from Lex into space and thus frees Zod. Here, its just Krypton blows up and Zod is free. I mean, I kinda viewed it like The Phantom Zone was powered by the presence of Krypton but it wasn't explained even in the slightest...oh well!

I'm currently watching 'Take Shelter' starring Michael Shannon and his performance is unbelievable. The stuff on Krypton featured fantastic acting by Shannon but later in the film, I didn't feel the presence I felt when he said "I WILL FIND HIM!" or "What i should've done years ago..." IDK, was it the writing, the directing or what but Zod ultimately felt underwhelming!

As for the tornado scene, its a fantastic scene in the film and one of the emotional highlights...BUT WHY THE FRICKIN' DOG!?!? I mean, the point of his death was that the people of Earth weren't yet ready to see what Kal-El could do..."That the world would reject him" yet he also gave his life up for a dog...I mean, how cliched is that!? I was fine with that but Jonathon could've just let Clark quickly get the dog as he knows of his powers and quickly hurry back. It wasn't too well written however.

SLionsCricket on 6/29/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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What did you think of the final fight with Zod and Kal-El and Zod's fate. I really liked that aspect of the film very much, especially Zod's death. Why? This scene was rather well illustrated how Kal-El had to ultimately choose Earth or Krypton and how much it pained him to kill Zod. However, that poor, innocent YET IDIOTIC family could've just run away...as far as I remember! I mean, they just stand there screaming!!! WTF!?!

Btw, Shane do you watch the Nostalgia Critic on Youtube? He is hilarious. If you watch his top 11 dumbest Superman moments, he has clearly illustrated how dumb Mums in Superman are :)

shane24 on 6/29/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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Yep, exactly like his other scores, I agree.

Yeah, I mean, it's a dog! You have a family, you risked that.....for a dog?! He's an idiot. :D

It just made more snes to me for the people to leave Zod, and possibly the council behind, and try their luck in the phantom zone. I mean, far out, it's better than dying, and at leastthey don't stupidly free an evil madman!! Something had to be done so he got free, I know, but it could of been handled much better than this.

I actually felt his presence at the end when he's explaining his thoughts just before the big fight at the end to why he does what he does. I could actually see where he was coming from, in a way.

What I really appreciated was that it wasn't someone waving a piece of kryptonite is Superman's face. The way they did it, opens up some more vulnerability to Superman, which has always been my problem with him- he's too powerful! What do you think?

I also appreciated that it wasn't a big chunk at the start if the movie that goes over Clark's origin story on the Kent farm. The flashback's were ver effective at telling necessary story (for newcomers) in a quick, no hassle way. Thoughts?

shane24 on 6/29/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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I enjoyed the fight with Zod overall, but I need to see it again to see how the death sits with me. Maybe you can convince me? :) As you know, I didn't see the trailer. So I really enjoyed Superman flying and repeatedly punching Zod through the city. I also loved Zod climbing the building like a maniac! :D

I burst out laughing at Lawrence Fishburne running away from the falling building. :D I liked how he was going to stay with her, that was a great scene.

What I find funny is, how does living on earth give you laser beam eyes!? :D I can look past the flying, but I find it funny that all of a sudden, they get friggin' laser beam eyes! :D

It really makes me laugh when Clark asks Jonathan- 'so I should let them die?' and he replies 'maybe' :D I get what he means, but it just sounds really funny to me. :)

We really haven't talked about the action! What was your favourite action scene? I think mine is when he 's fighting two at the same time, I really enjoyed that. Oh, and whenever the woman(I can't remember her name) is fighting, it's amazing! How she is taking out mutiple soldiers was really entertaining to me.

I think the steps kinda blocked the family from getting away. I think that Zod would of swung around and got them anyway if they tried to slip past, or duck down.

Nah, I haven't seen any of Nostalgia Critic's work. I'll have a look some time. :)

SLionsCricket on 6/29/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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Hans Zimmer's score got real frustrating. I think I'm seeing MoS with Toki today so yeah, I wanna see how the score affects me. I got too heavily distracted by it. I just wish John Williams returned to score the film with all new soundtracks. He allows the music to flow with the film, not overpower the film. I love Zimmer but here, it didn't work for me. Sure, all his scores are a little bombastic but this was too much but then again, he's competing with John Williams which is not easy

I understand his motivation/message behind not letting Kal-El (I'm gonna keep calling him that, I mean its like the most badass name ever :D) save him because the world isn't ready to know what he can do but then again, he died for a dog!? Oh well, still a pretty powerful scene if you take out the dog bit :) You know the 1978 Superman, I prefered Pa Kent's death scene in that which is just a heart attack. It's so powerful to think that of all the power Kal-El has, he couldn't stop nature.
Two different messages for different films, both worked well in context with their film

At the end, I did feel somewhat of Zod's presence. His monologue was great, the action sequences were exhilarating but there is something.....what is it with that half moustache/half beard!? It kinda distracted me. I loved Zod's motivation to re build Krypton. Unlike Stamp's Zod, who wanted to punish Kal-El because he couldn't punish Jor-El. I prefer Stamp's Zod though :)

Yeah, I loved how Kal-El was made more human and more vulnerable. In the old films, he had that breath power thing but they took that off. I don't mind Superman's powers in the old one, it never really affected me. I was always connected with the character. In fact, Reeve's Superman is my favorite superhero :) However, I do have an issue with Lex being the archnemesis, he's only a human and he's up against a god!? Thankfully, it didn't affect me much in the first one how it was basically Superman vs Kryptonite/Missles and the second one overpowered him. I didn't give a shit about the rest :)

I loved the non-linear style used and how each flashback had relevance to what was happening in the present day. It all tied in beautifully for me but I'll be lying if I said I didn't check my watch a few times in the first hour.

SLionsCricket on 6/29/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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Hans Zimmer's score got real frustrating. I think I'm seeing MoS with Toki today so yeah, I wanna see how the score affects me. I got too heavily distracted by it. I just wish John Williams returned to score the film with all new soundtracks. He allows the music to flow with the film, not overpower the film. I love Zimmer but here, it didn't work for me. Sure, all his scores are a little bombastic but this was too much but then again, he's competing with John Williams which is not easy

I understand his motivation/message behind not letting Kal-El (I'm gonna keep calling him that, I mean its like the most badass name ever :D) save him because the world isn't ready to know what he can do but then again, he died for a dog!? Oh well, still a pretty powerful scene if you take out the dog bit :) You know the 1978 Superman, I prefered Pa Kent's death scene in that which is just a heart attack. It's so powerful to think that of all the power Kal-El has, he couldn't stop nature.
Two different messages for different films, both worked well in context with their film

At the end, I did feel somewhat of Zod's presence. His monologue was great, the action sequences were exhilarating but there is something.....what is it with that half moustache/half beard!? It kinda distracted me. I loved Zod's motivation to re build Krypton. Unlike Stamp's Zod, who wanted to punish Kal-El because he couldn't punish Jor-El. I prefer Stamp's Zod though :)

Yeah, I loved how Kal-El was made more human and more vulnerable. In the old films, he had that breath power thing but they took that off. I don't mind Superman's powers in the old one, it never really affected me. I was always connected with the character. In fact, Reeve's Superman is my favorite superhero :) However, I do have an issue with Lex being the archnemesis, he's only a human and he's up against a god!? Thankfully, it didn't affect me much in the first one how it was basically Superman vs Kryptonite/Missles and the second one overpowered him. I didn't give a shit about the rest :)

I loved the non-linear style used and how each flashback had relevance to what was happening in the present day. It all tied in beautifully for me but I'll be lying if I said I didn't check my watch a few times in the first hour.

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SLionsCricket on 6/29/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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I loved the death scene. I though it added more conflict to the character that they hopefully explore in the sequel.

One of my main issues, which just bothers me amongst the awesome action sequences is the collateral damage and the hundreds and thousands that died from that! I mean, surely they did!! If they really explore this in the sequel, that'll be great but I'm also glad that they didn't make Superman a guy who could save everyone. But then Faora did say "For every human you save...you will kill a million more" so it ties in with Superman's inexperience in combat, especially against Kryptonians.

The final fight scene was kickass, I loved it! The punching in the sky was awesome :) How many times were you able to tell that there was a Superman that was completely CGI generated. One was when he first walks out of the ice place (which isn't the Fortress of Solitude) Like the first few shots of that was a complete CGI shot. Also when Faora and Kal-El are fighting in the I-Hop I believe and Faora grabs him and throws him to someplace. You can easily tell that there is plenty of CGI shots but I thought it looked nicely done. Watch it again and you'll notice many CGI generated Superman shots!

Yeah, I do find the laserbeam part confusing but oh well!

I didn't chuckle at the Jonathon Kent scene where he says "Maybe!" Your a cruel human being Shane :)

Yeah, I thought most of the action sequences except that retarded tentacle scene was completely kickass. My favorite was also Kal-El taking on Faora and the other giant Kryptonian! I think the other one may be a masked Non (from Superman II) I thought Faora was the most awesome thing about the film, I mean she was the villain in my eyes and Zod was the guy with a motivation. She was intimidating :) Also, what do you think of that tentacle scene? I absolutely did love seeing Faora beat up those men at fast speed :) I need to re-watch the film but my favorite scenes where "I WILL FIND HIM" and also when Zod and Faora are threatening Martha Kent (Diane Lane) and Supes just drops by!

SLionsCricket on 6/29/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

You should definitely check out the Nostalgia Critic. He's absolutely hilarious. All his vids can be found on Youtube ;)

SLionsCricket on 6/29/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

Btw, sorry about posting the same comment twice. Don't know what happened there. Anyways, I have a few questions to ask you

1) What did you think of the sequence where Jor-El is instructing Lois. I loved that scene, it added so much mystery to Jor-El!
2) What did you think of the way Lois finds Kal-El? I myself thought it was okay. Rather slow at times, it was okay for me
3) What did you think of those penis ships that took Zod and co to The Phantom Zone? They looked funny :)
4) What did you think of all the product placement? I mean, they looked so damn obvious and even a little distracting!

That's if for now :) Probably heading off to see the film again today!

shane24 on 6/30/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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Do you think Toki will like it more than your other friends?

I think Jonathan could of got Clark to get a kid from another car. He could of still been trapped, that way by the time he got the kid into a safe area, he would of died. Same result, with no friggin' dog.

You may of checked your watch, but it was a much better alternative to having to watch him as a kid for 30 minutes.

shane24 on 6/30/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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It'll be interesting to see if they reference all the obvious deaths in the sequel, but I wouldn't be surprised if you're supposed to just switch your brain off to such things.

Oh, I remember one thing that annoyed me! Superman has the upper hand because he's used to the earths atmosphere. But then he goes and tells Zod how he overcome it! The next time he just did focused like Superman said.That is just poor writing right there.

To be honest, I didn't notice any cgi Superman. I was just enjoying the action too much to notice. Maybe on my next viewing I'll see it.

While I'm thinking about it, I love Zimmer's score when Superman spear tackled Zod through the field. Some parts, I was too focused on the action to even notice the score! That actually might be a flaw.

I let the laser beam thing go as well.

Oh c'mon! It's hilarious! :D He just said that Clark 'maybe' should let innocent kids on a bus die! :D Jonathan Kent is a maniac! :D

The tentacle scene was just kinda meh to me. I didn't hate it, but I noticed I was thinking about other things when that scene was on. All of a sudden Superman was below flying up into it! I didn't know what happened. :)

I thought it was lazy that Zod found out where they were by a distress beacon being turned on just by turning on the spaceship.

I can't remember what part it was, but one scene when Zod yells, it sounds like his balls just dropped. :) His voice just went up to a high pitch. :)

shane24 on 6/30/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

I'll have a look later at nostalgia critic.

shane24 on 6/30/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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So, was Superman a baby killer? That spaceship had all these babies in it!

I thought it was interesting, but I wanted to know more details how it's possible.

I just assumed they condensed months of searching into a few minutes, so it's much better than the alternative.

I was fine with the penis ships, I actually hadn't thought of them like that until now. It's better than them inside a floating square in space.

It didn't bother me too much. The only product placement I remember was for Nokia as Lois was climbing up the ice. I understand why they did it when they go so much money for putting the products in.

SLionsCricket on 7/1/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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Unfortunately, Toki and I couldn't go to see it yesterday, it'll probably be sometime this week. I think he'll like it, seeing as how he just enjoys most films he watches. He'll probably enjoy it quite a lot seeing as how much we hyped the film.

Yeah, the writing in the tornado scene should definitely have been better. Yeah, having a nonlinear structure this time is better as a means to avoid repetition. I just felt the pacing was a little off at times.

SLionsCricket on 7/1/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

Yeah, I guess the more realistic approach to this film means that in order to save a city of a supervillain, lives must sometimes be lost for the greater good! Kal-El would also say this "Every action I take, no matter how violent or how cruel, is for the greater good...of my people!" Hey, both Zod and Kal-El are made to be like this. Both take darker actions (even if Kal-El does so unintentially) in order to achieve the greater good. Zod is willing to burn Earth to create a new Krypton and Kal-El is apparently willing to let a thousand citizens die to bring peace.

Don't get me wrong, listening to the score on my iPod, its awesome. However, in context with the film it is at times distracting for me. However, it is a pretty epic score...no denying that.

Haha :) Johnny's surely a maniac. Can you just imagine the scene where Jonathon's dying

CLARK (looks over at Jonathon)- What am I supposed to do, let you die?
JONATHON (stares in a confused manner)- NO!!! SAVE ME!!!
CLARK- I thought you said that those kids on the bus should've died?
JONATHON- Well...um...I...yeah...I did! But save me, I'm your father

:D

I think the yelling scene is "I WILL FIND HIM" early in the film on Krypton. That is possibly my favorite scene in the film...for now! Shannon's acting there was incredible, the rest of the film imo, he was okay.

SLionsCricket on 7/1/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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As for the question about Kal-El telling Zod about how he adapted to Earth's atmosphere, I agree...it was stupid! But seeing as how Zod was military trained and how he could adapt easily, I could forgive that. Btw, that entire sequence starting with Zod threatening Martha to Faora being taken into the ship is my favorite sequence of the film!!! I will agree, the writing in the film is poor at times.

You will notice a CGI superman when you re-watch the film. I noticed it because a review said that they used a CGI Superman and the blend between CGI and human Superman was nicely done.

SLionsCricket on 7/1/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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What did you think of the concept of terraforming in this film? And how do you think the world machine (I believe that's what its called) was handled?

What did you think of Lois in the film and how she had a much larger role in the film than the damsel in distress? I loved it! That sequence with her and an AI Jor-El was a fantastic scene.

Was the fate of all the other Kryptonians excluding Zod that they were once more sent into the Phantom Zone? I believe that was what Lois was attempting to do the whole time, its just I forgot. And if so, how did you react to it and do you think that they may return in a sequel? I would love to see Faora back!

What did you especially think of the final scene with Clark and the glasses? I thought it was a great nod to the originals but at the same time, I thought Cavill with the glasses looked more Superman-ish than Reeve did with the glasses. I hope in the sequels that they do make him a bit of a clumsy idiot because the whole time I was thinking, "HOW COULD PERRY NOT SEE HIM!?" especially seeing how Perry was metres away from Superman. With Reeve I was willing to forgive it seeing as how different he acts in personality, but here he seemed to act very similarly. Hopefully, the sequel fixes these issues.

shane24 on 7/2/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

That an interesting way of looking at Superman and Zod(having similar intentions), but obviously Zod's intentions were always a little twisted(wants a perfect race).

I heard some of the score. Don't you think quite a few tracks are very similar?

Ha! That's funny, Dinelka. :)

shane24 on 7/2/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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I liked the concept of terra-forming the Earth-but what about all the damage? A big part of earth would of changed, are we supposed to just forget that?

I liked the world machine, especially the damage it was causing.

Overall, I liked Lois, but I had problems. First of all, who just drops in a sentence that they won a Pulitzer prize?! Obviously it for us to know, but it was written so clumsily. I also didn't like that none of what was happening seemed to faze her at all! Hmm, an alien.....whatta you know! I think there should of been some humour, or at least some shock here. Like the first Superman movie- Superman says 'I got you', and Lois says 'Got me? Who's got you?!' Just something similar to that would of been appreciated.

I guess it depends on what the black hole is supposed to do in a Snyder movie whether Faora is still alive. Because in reality, that black hole would of sucked Lois in as well. So we're not dealing with science here. It all probably depends on whether they want to bring them back for a sequel.

I didn't see enough of Clark in glasses to have a reaction. But seriously, that idea always pisses me off in any Superman movie.

shane24 on 7/2/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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I think instead of having a fist fight with Zod, Jor-El should of beaten him with science. It just seems like a basic way to write the character. They could of had some inventive ideas in the movie for how he fight Zod.

Jor-El would give long speeches that sounded intelligent, but weren't.

How did Zod know all the languages? They only turned up two days prior. I'll let it go, though, it's only minor, and could be explained by him simply being an alien.

Why did it take Perry so long to leave?! He just stood there watching the world be destroyed! If that was me, I would of left New York two days earlier. That's another thing, are Americans that dedicated to work? I admire them if they go into work when they only just got threatened by aliens! :D I let all this go too, but it's funny when you think about it.

SLionsCricket on 7/3/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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I generally loved how Zod and Kal-El were portrayed in the film. The score is too similar to TDK at times and has elements of Inception in it. It's a little distracting because I listen to those scores all the time knowing what movie they're from that when I first heard them at cinemas, I was like "Wait, that's TDK or Inception"

SLionsCricket on 7/3/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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I completely agree about the terraforming concept. Whilst definitely intriguing, the end is left flawed like you said. How could they just go back to the way things were. It's not like we can just ignore everything else that has happened in the film. The world machine was pretty cool though I need another viewing. A lot of people didn't like that saying it caused too much damage on Earth. I mean, I hope I didn't miss anything but wasn't Zod's intention to burn Earth down to the ground and form a new Krypton? I mean, he doesn't care about what happens on Earth, does he? Though I do question Kal-El's decision to travel up to the Indian Ocean (I believe) and fight the War machine.

Seeing the film again this week so yeah, I wanna see my views on it.

I thought Lois was a good character and I certainly loved how she had a larger role but I do prefer Margot Kidder's Lois. The typical damsel in distress was far more memorable. 20 years from now, I can hardly see anyone saying "Hey, remember Lois Lane from Man of Steel?" In fact, as soon as the film was over, I was like "The new Lois was cool, but the old one was just better for the tone of those films" Yeah, saying that she is a Pulitzer Winning author/journalist was done awkwardly. I mean she said it and she said it like "Hey, I've won a Pulitzer Prize" Seriously, that does sound weird and some of the writing definitely needed to be sharper. I agree about hardly ANY humor in the film at all. I love the first two Donner films because the humor works so well in them. I just LOVE them now. This film felt incredibly serious as if a bit of the life was sucked out of it. There was hardly any humor until a scene at the end of the film with Kal-El and the military soldier and that girl. Seriously, what the girl said was embarassing. "I just think he's kinda hot" WTF!? Did George Lucas take over writing there? It was just the most awkward, a repetitive joke that felt like it was only there because the writer and director felt that there was almost no humor in the film before that. I seriously wanna know your thoughts on this and please, compare it to what happened in Star Trek 2 (you know, the underwear scene with Alice Eve) I honestly hate this more than that.

Haha. I can understand why those glasses piss me off but I honestly don't mind it in the Reeve films because like I said, he is able to literally become another character. Basically a human in contrast to the god he is at other times. However, I hated Brandon Routh putting on those glasses in Superman Returns because he wasn't acting, he was imitating Reeve. I don't see how it could work in the sequel, seeing as how dark and serious this is. Hopefully, they lighten the tone a bit and add a bit more "fun" to it like TDK films.

Here's another big question from me. By the end of the film, Metropolis is a wasteland that has been owned. I mean, the level of destruction of this film makes what happened in Avengers seem like a scratch! How could the epicness of a Justice League film compare with MoS. This is what I was thinking after viewing the film and FilmJunk brought it back into my mind. I mean, they said that all these superheroes might as well throw planets at each other!!

SLionsCricket on 7/3/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

I can see your view of the Zod and Jor-El fight. It's a great one as well. I agree on what you said about Perry and the rest. Why would they stay back. Like you, I admire their passion and dedication for work but....GET THE HECK OUTTA THERE MORPHEUS! :)

At times, it feels like I'm picking apart the tiny plot holes in the film like TDKR

shane24 on 7/5/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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Yeah, some of these things are minor problems, but they were very obvious.

Maybe a fight happening on multiple planets? Maybe that's how they top it? Batman and Wonder Woman fighting on Earth, while Superman and Green Lantern fight somewhere else, while coming to give a hand. If done properly, it could be pretty epic.

Clark should at least add a little moustache to his disguise. ;)

Why do screenwriters write such lame jokes for women in blockbusters! The Alice Eve underwear scene has been done a thousand times before, with less success each time. The women soldier saying he's hot makes her just look like a Hilton or Kardashian. Was I seeing things, or was she a fuckin' soldier?! She wouldn't say that. I know it was intended for just a fun throw-away line, but man, i heard mice in my theatre(in-joke because mice were found in the Carousel cinema over here) it was so bad. I think they threw the easiest joke in there because they were lazy and the script was nearly finished.

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SLionsCricket on 7/5/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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Well, I'm re-visiting MoS tomorrow and i wanna see how
our cinema responds to that line. It felt like such a sluttish line, thrown in at the worst moment. I mean, seriously!?! She could've said, "I think he's kinda badass" or "Sir...Um, I think he's...I just...Think...er...he's a good guy!" or something. Yes, they're pretty stupid lines but seriously, better than 'I think he's kinda hot' Ugh!

I also cannot believe a soldier would say that. I understand too it was thrown in for comedy but it didn't work one bit, seeing as how the rest of the film was humorless. I guess they were trying to set the tone for the sequel but please....please Zack, not that kind of humor. :)

Justice League is a tough thing to handle. I mean, he's more powerful than any other superhero in Justice League (if I'm right) and the damage and the scope of epicness in this film would be literally impossible to topple. I mean, take a look at TDK films. None of those films had huge, epic battle sequences that resulted in collateral damage but MoS did. How Superman fits into a Justice League worries me but you have a point with what you said. It could work but Nolan must direct it and Snyder must be the visual director (or whatever) Snyder, imo, won't make Justice League that amazing. Nolan could :D

shane24 on 7/5/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

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That bad-ass line could of worked much better imo.

They need to give Superman something that makes him busy, like a alien that's just as powerful. It can work, look what they did with Hulk. He's pretty close to being as unstoppable as Superman.

I can't see Nolan directing, I can't see him wanting to do another comic book movie.

SLionsCricket on 7/9/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

Yeah Shane, anything but "I think he's kinda hot!" I mean, I re-watched the film with a packed cinema and everyone nervously giggled at that scene. I just knew it was coming. I looked over at Toki who was laughing when that popped up. And not in a good way!!

Re-watching it, what did you think of the decision to add a weakness to Kal-El by making him weaker near Krypton atmosphere? I mean, yes its part of the lore but they truly had a clever way of incorporating this weakness without resorting to Kryptonite. I mean, I loved how half of the World Machine was in Krypton atmosphere so he was weaker. It's just I felt it was a clever idea but they should've used it to explore more of Kal-El's human side.

I also wanted to point out that one of my favorite things about the film was the relationship between Martha and Kal-El. I did feel, watching the film a second time, that the relationship between Kal-El and Lois was a bit rushed. I just hoped that kiss was under the given condition and that Lois just had a bit of a nervous breakdown!!

I particularly loved that scene of little Kal-El in class where he couldn't control his senses. I thought that was some realy powerful stuff and it truly explored Kal-El. Besides, "YOU THINK YOU CAN THREATEN MY MOTHER!" was such a powerful moment later in the film.

shane24 on 7/12/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (0 likes)

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One of my favourite parts of Man of Steel was them not resorting to kryptonite. I'm actually sick to death of people waving a green bar around in Superman's face.

That was one big point that I missed- that kiss! I really didn't think they had enough connection yet to start kissing. It was completely out of place.

How that all that rubble fell on that girl. I like how it covenientely fell on her so she was fine. :)

I don't think I enjoyed the classroom scene as much as you, but it was enjoyable. :)

What about him destroying the truck?! That driver looked like it happens to him every day. :D He's trying to keep a low profile, yet he does that! That would be investigated for weeks! :)

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And I had a big grin on my face at the end when he put the glasses on and went to the Daily Planet. I watched the Reeve films from a young age, and it just reminded me of that era. I liked it. :)


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shane24 on 7/29/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (0 likes)

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I would call it fashionably late, Kate. :)

I agree that it's better than her being the damsel in distress. I hate that! But, she was in on everything! She's a damn reporter. Did you feel that kiss was suitable, or out if place? When I saw it, I was shocked! When exactly did they show strong feelings towards each other?

Yes Kate! I really appreciated that they didn't spend 40minutes just doing an origins story. They just gave us a non linear look at moments that were suitable for what was happening in the present. I think everybody knows enough about Superman to not have to see him crash-land again.

The actions is awesome, I agree. It makes me wonder whether you'd like 300. :)

Now Kate, Jonathan dying for a dog, thoughts? :)

Just read what you said about the kissing scene! Yes, that would of been great if nothing was said.

The bad 'attempts at humour' you referred to, is it the woman soldier? I'd say our thoughts would mirror on that one! :)

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I didn't have a problem with the kiss, there had been a lot of eye contact between them in the scenes before, and I felt there was chemistry and trust there so I was kind of expecting it and actually wanted it to happen between them after he saved her life.

I thought for a moment that he might have erased her memory with a kiss like in the previous films, but she definitely knew him at the end.

I didn't have a problem with the dog thing either! The dog was part of their family so I could totally understand him wanting to go back for him, although it was stupid to forget he was in the car when they got out in the first place!
I liked the acting from Costner in that scene, he could have hammed it up but it was very subtle and affecting from him :)

Oh god, the woman soldier, there's another scene where nothing could be said and you'd understand the admiration from her looking as he flew away.......but saying 'I think he's kinda hot' - and did she say that to her sergeant?!! She should have been suspended for that, haha. So unnecessary!

300 is on my watchlist, and after seeing a couple of Snyder's action movies I am looking forward to it a lot now. It was actually on tv last night, but the timings weren't right for me to watch it.

shane24 on 7/30/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (0 likes)

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Okay, maybe I'll see more chemistry next time. :)

Another power? Kissing memory away?! I can't remember that! I don't want to imagine what else he can do if he can do that with a kiss. ;)

Oh, you know Kate that it would be sad for me if I left Minnie behind in that situation. It would make me sad about it forever! But to save a animal that has has half the time to live as you, is a bit silly for me. I couldn't take his death seriously, but I did like that he made Clark stop.

I agree! Lame, lame, lame humour. That's nearly the worst thing she could of said.

I'll say it again. The fact you're into action over something like The Notebook is awesome. :)

Kate668 on 7/30/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (0 likes)

I think it was in Superman II, he erased Lois' memory to protect her, by giving her a super-kiss, haha. At the end, she still knew Clark but didn't know his true identity.

I will admit I did find Cavill quite attractive as Clark/Kal....maybe that helped me see the chemistry, I don't know.

Aww I know Shane, I get that totally and I wasn't judging you in the slightest, and you do make a good point about whether it's logical to save the animal........maybe a small child in a car would have been a less conflicting choice, but if it was a baby, they wouldn't have been able to run away and leave Pa Kent to his doom like the dog did, haha.

I liked the overall tone of the movie, I don't think the reboot could have been comedic and light like the Reeve movies, I liked the darker tone and the seriousness, and that's why the comedy attempts were not necessary.......although I did like the '...days since last accident' safety sign at the construction site where Zod and Superman have their fight, that made me giggle :D

TheHonestFilmFan on 12/23/2013 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (3 likes)

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Area_hulk on 9/4/2014 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (1 like)

that's not just it....

Crapbaskets123 on 8/3/2022 Reply  ·  Like  ·  (0 likes)

I mean...it isn't necessarily bad for superman to kill people as long as such a plot point is executed properly