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Two of the year's best films; Inception more ambitious, yet more flawed. Darren wins this one.
inception est le film de l'année, devant the social network, toy story 3, kick kass, black swan, shutter island and scott pilgrim
Wow, did you just throw Shutter Island into a list of the year's best movies? Did you actually see it?
one was perfect
Inception was the more impressive achievement. It'll be the more remembered film 20 years from now.
My two favorite films of the year! Black Swan was pure cinematic perfection.
How is Inception flawed?
INCEPTION, it's not even a competition.
I say Black Swan all the way.
FictionFox- Cobb was the only three-dimensional character in the entire movie, there was too much exposition (ie from Ariadne, the exposition machine), the James Bond-esque action sequences in the snow were underwhelming nearly incomprehensible, the ambiguous ending isn't satisfying to me at all, and neither is the needless amount of ambiguity/inconsistency throughout the whole film. Anyway, I loved the movie, but come on, it had a ton of problems.
The interesting thing about these two films is that they are both superficially complex. Inception is the omg brainfuck that is easily explained away with an analysis of film as dream (so the top keeps spinning because we were never in Cobb's dream; we were inside our own). Black Swan is just riddled with conflicting evidence making the entire film not add up to a whole, which is interesting and undoubtedly intentional, but also shows that director was not willing to try and make concrete statements in his film beyond the already rehashed ballerina drama.
I have to give it to Black Swan though, because the film just fits me better. I'll take all over the place symbols over gunfights any day.
Controversial here. Inception has the better story. Having said that after seeing Black Swan I'd been on a roller-coaster through the valley of the knives, my skin had been stripped away and I was mutating into something profoundly Other. After seeing Inception I had a headache from the incessant soundtrack. Black Swan wins.
Does somebody really believe Inception isn't flawed AT ALL?
Sorry, but "Inception" was not complex. It was disappointingly simple; unless you have a hard time understanding layers, there's not really much going on there. At the end of the day, it's just another heist movie.
Whoever called Ariadne the "exposition machine" must have forgotten that Vincent Cassel spoils the entirety of Black Swan within the first ten minutes. I realize there's more going on in the film than just the telling of the story, that the stylistic choices are important too, but Portman wasn't convincing enough for me and Cassel's dialogue and delivery were so cliched it was laughable. Black Swan took itself too seriously. Inception is indeed nothing more than a fancy heist movie, but at least it's having fun pretending to be something it's not. I can't say the same for Black Swan.
both movies were quite impressive, but I'll be different and say Black Swan actually amazed me just a little bit more. I'm going to go with that.
Inception. Quite frankly, while I enjoyed Swan, especially Portman's performance, I had forgotten the movie 48 hours later. That cannot be said about Inception, at least from my perspective...
Heist > Nut. Both good, both overrated.
Yeah, I'd still take Paprika over Inception and Perfect Blue over Black Swan.
Hooooo no, brotha. No way is Perfect Blue better than Black Swan.
I left Inception thinking "Wow, that was a great movie", but I left Black Swan feeling as though I'd had a transcendent experience. It is perfect.
All about Black Swan.
Inception and Black Swan, a good match. Both are psychologically moving and we are left to think of the film even after we've left the "theater".
Inception was pretty good, but it's certainly no masterpiece.
Black Swan on the other hand, is. :)
Easy pick for me!
an overrated Heist Movie, or a very overrated horror film? id say inception is by far better. and when looking back in 20 or even 10 years i think people will still love inception and see black swan as a movie that's only real purpose was so aronofsky could get money for his next films.
and I would also put shutter island on my top ten of that year.
Black Swan was a horror film? Doesn't matter 'cause it sucked! Inception by a mile.
Maybe two of my favorite directors here... I thought Black Swan was great, but I think it tried to appeal to a wider audience than most of Aronofski's films and lacked subtlety, the only major flaw I saw in the film. Inception was just fantastic all around. Loved it.
Love Black Swan, but Inception is my favorite movie.
Black Swan's good. Inception's great.
Inception was pretty bad. Black Swan may be overly melodramatic but it was still great.
Black Swan was fatally flawed from the beginning by having Portman start out mental, it couldn't recover from that no matter how good it was.
Inception is a very good film, just slightly let down by the rushed pace not allowing for further exploration of the dreamscape.
on Apr 28
Black Swan is a masterpiece. Very easy decision for me.