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Cleckley on 12/8/2011 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
What up, Seb?
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Hey dude. No problem, I enjoy swapping ideas about movies so I'm happy to opine! ;) I wouldn't say I have a wealth of knowledge or anything, but I'll take your kind compliment.I guess before I answer your questions I should tell you a bit about my tastes, just to give you some context. When I was a little younger I took a more artistic approach to movie watching, I was much more patient and was able to really get into the slower, more thoughtful movies; character studies and so on. When There Will Be Blood came out I still had one foot in that phase so I thought it was a brilliant movie. DDL was brilliant, the character PT Anderson gave him was brilliant, the commentary on America and religion was brilliant, and the whole menacing feel of the movie was brilliant. I also liked Tom Cruise's character in Magnolia very, very much. I don't think it's a conicidence that they both came from PTA. The guy is obviously a highly competent auteur. The thing is, over the last four or five years I've become much, much less interested in these types of movies. I'm more of a popcorn film person now (with many exceptions of course) so I don't know if I'd still enjoy TWBB. I might appreciate it more than enjoy it. I mean, it is kinda slow moving so, existentialism or not, it could be difficult for me to get into. Maybe it'd be too bare-bones and empty to watch now. Maybe. Just to exemplify, if I had seen Terrence Mallick's 'The Thin Red Line' as a teenager, I would've fucking loved it. Now I find it far too plodding. The opposite can be said of something like 2 Fast 2 Furious (which has leaped from the bottom of my list to the Top 150).All that in mind, I still respect PTA's work a lot (haven't seen Punch Drunk Love yet). But, looking through your list, I don't know if our tastes are all that different. You've got a lot of blockbuster type movie in your Top 10 too. With the exception of Brokeback (which I haven't seen) I enjoy all of those movies and consider them at least average (some I adore). Of your Top 20, I only really dislike 3: Synechdoche (intriguing concept and set-up, a tad too ponderous and slow), Titanic (I don't like the romace and I find it a bit silly and emotional), and Babel (way slow). The only time I can get into slow movies now is if they're melancholy/depressing, but that rarely happens.That's a lot to read through so my bad if it's too lengthy. Oh, before I go, I think you might get a kick out of Nicolas Wending Refn's movies, if you haven't already seen them that is. He makes these artistic type films, beautifully shot and atmospheric. Bronson and Drive were two good ones (I personally hated Valhalla Rising, but I know others that loved it).(Oh, I'll answer The Matrix question in a while, I just really gotta get some food!)
I'm back. So Re: The Matrix. It's an engaging movie, groundbreaking in its own way, but there are very noticeable weaknesses; Once or twice the script throws a line of silly dialogue at you ("he's beginning to believe"), some of the acting is slightly stiff and the martial arts is not very good (choreography is fine but the actors aren't trained screen fighters). In fact, the first time I viewed the film the first couple minutes convinced me it was gonna suck hard. Normally these things are BIG drawbacks in my eyes, but with The Matrix none of that mattered too much. It was just too fun a ride. Very cool to look at, very cool to listen to and had that perfect philosophical allegory (not too dumb to make you laugh, but not too evolved to make the film seem didactic and pretentious and stop it from being blockbusting entertainment). By the third minute or so I was hooked (I can tell you exacty when and why, but I won't).Fast forward to taday, and yeah, the action scenes are a little less impressive than before. It's still a great ride. It looks great, it sounds great, bullet time is still kickass. The film has an aura of cool. Some people think that it tries too hard to be cool, but I love the shots, the costumes, the metaphor, the colour-scheme, the set design, the filming, the music... And I'm someone that was already a fan of Dark City and Ghost In The Shell (movies that The Matrix arguably plagiarised a teeny bit).I'm tentative, I'm not saying this with a huge degree of certainty, but I think you'll enjoy it. I mean The Dark Knight has a bit of silliness and corniness in it too, but we all still enjoy that flick.
Seb on 12/9/2011 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
Cheers for that, good to see someone who's passionate about their movies. Yeah firstly, I'm 17 and really into movies that u were into during your teens. Really slow burn, contemplative, existential sometimes, films only because I'm relatively new to the world of film. I'm absolutely fascinated by p.t. Anderson's camera work, how it evokes feelings from malick films (like the recent tree of life) and how it has a dream like quality to it. I've only sparked this fascination a couple years ago so I'm rather naive at the moment. Yeah, I feel that with age the slow burn films will probably become a little repetitive and I'll probably find less joy in them. There will be blood is easily the highest quality film I think I've ever seen, but I think with time my head will say less and my heart will speak more about film. Shawshank is my hearts fave film and that'll probably claim my top spot in time. I tried to watch the thin red line the other day but you really have to be in the perfect mood to watch a malick picture. The tree of life was frustrating at first but on my second viewing I loved it. And the only reason I was hesitant about the matrix is because I've seen inception and people have drawn a lot of comparisons so I've been turned off a little.Finally, just about the 3 films you didn't like in my top 20, I recently rewatched synecdoche, new York and it was no where near as good as it was when I first saw it. I saw it when I was 14 so probably a little immature. It completely knocked me on my ass intellectually so I just conceded that it was a great movie. Watching it now, it is slow, hard to get through and a lot of it's great and intriguing ideas are jumbled all throughout the movie. I'm reluctant at the moment to kick it out of my top 20 bcos I was so sure for the last few years that it was great when actually I was wrong. It will go out soon, you are right.Second film, titanic. It really is just a entertaining melodrama. I know the dialogue isn't great and it's rather predictable but it has great chemistry between Winslet and dicaprio and some great special effects. It also has excellent rewatchability. It's over 3 hours long and yet I've seen it over ten times and thoroughly enjoyed every viewing. So I know it isn't great, but it is guaranteed entertainment every time I watch it. Lastly, babel is one of the most contemplative films out. I think it asks the viewer to bring a lot to it rather than it just entertaining us. Roger ebert, easily my fave critic gave it 4/4 and everything he says in his review pretty much sum up what I feel about. Each of the entwining stories are simple yet they carry such grand messages. This film is like a parable: simple story that strikes on a universal message. I think in order to really like this move you have to bring a lot to the viewing experience.You should watch punch-drunk love. It's half the running time of magnolia and it's extremely funny. So have u seen the tree of life yet and if so what did u think of it? And in addition to that, what do you think were the best films of the year?
Cleckley on 12/10/2011 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
It's a little counter-intuitive I guess, this whole idea of tastes transitioning from high art to pop art as you age. I suspect that for most people the reverse is true. However, if you've seen a lot of movies it becomes easy to burn out. Makes you yearn for films that just kill the time. If you wann have a disusiion about preferences and understanding your own tastes, have a word with a guy called 'KingOfPain'. He's on this site and it's his department really. Then you got guys like 'PCNewOnes' that tend to leave well thought out comments.You're clearly a fan of crisp, flowing cinematography. So yeah, Refn is definitely the director for you to follow, and maybe try watching Park Chan-wook's 'Vengeance Trilogy' and some Polanski.Your thought process for liking Titanic is sound IMHO. If you enjoy a film, for whatever reason, that's all that matters really. For instance, I have Street Fighter in my Top 20. I might not be able to prove that it's 'good' in the conventional, objective sense of the word, but I enjoy it so it is 'good' by default.The comparisons between Inception and The Matrix are legitimate I guess, but the similarities are really quite superficial. Inception is just a heist flick with a twist (I was gonna use the word 'gimmick' but Inception is too fun to deserve that kind of criticism). The Matrix is an action film with questions about the nature of existence, choice and conciousness. It's not necessarily profound, but it has more substance than Inception. If you wanna see the film Inception is really like, I would suggest 'Paprika'.I've actually been meaning to see Punch-Drunk for a while, but my dislike for Adam Sandler has been preventing me.Haven't seen Tree of Life, may never get around to it. If it's showing on a lazy evening, who knows?In all honesty, I've probably seen fewer than 20 new releases this calendar year. I graduated a little over a year ago, so my attentions have been pulled in other directions (mainly work... ugh). None of this set has made a huge impact on me. Midnight in Paris and Drive were good. I also enjoyed Bad Teacher and a YouTube released movie called Girl Walks Into A Bar. I wouldn't recommend those two movies to many people; I sort of have unique resons for liking them (uncommon personal tastes). Here's an eclectic list of movies I've recently seen (though not new releases) and liked: Black Dynamite (blaxploitation parody), University of Laughs (a very, very clever Japanese satire), 'Love, Sex Aur Dhoka (a surprisingly well made and scathing Bollywood movie), In The Loop (foul mouthed political satire from here in the UK), Malena (an Italian, coming of age film), The Girl Who Leapt Through Time (anime). I figure there's no point recommending films that have a lot of exposure already.
Seb on 12/10/2011 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
Cheers for that, yeah, it's been a weak year in film so I would've been surprised if you'd seen a lot. All I've seen is super 8, tree of life , the kids are all right and true grit. All the Oscar contenders are flooding out into cinemas in a week or 2. Just on Adam Sandler, I know what you mean. I have no respect for him as an actor. His latest movie, grown ups was terrible and jack and Jill looks even worse. His performance in punch drunk love shows a surprisingly depth in his acting and yet after this he went straight back to the low brow stuff. It seems that comedic actors always have a surprisingly dramatic depth that is never explored. Jim carry showed great depth in eternal sunshine as well as in the Truman show. Will Ferrell has also shown depth in darker comedic roles. So watch punch drunk cos p.t. Anderson discovers a great depth of potential in Sandler. His performance, as much ad I dont want to say it is restrained, subtle and heartfelt. and cheers on the friend recommendations, I'll be sure to have a chat with them
jeremyd99 on 1/29/2012 Reply · Like · (1 like)
great taste in movies i love twbb come check out my channel
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ironichipster on 1/31/2012 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
Thanks for recommending TWBB. I did like it, though not as much as Boogie Nights and Magnolia (but then those have had more time to grow on me). BTW, if you’re into slow-burn films, you should definitely see Alien.
ironichipster on 2/2/2012 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
You're right about the different paces in Alien movies. Every Alien movie has a different tone, genre, director and writers, which gives each entry a distinct flavor. I like them all to varying degrees, as I appreciate several of the talents behind each film (Scott, Cameron, Fincher and Whedon) but some people dislike the tone shifts. Anyway, I think the Alien series is one of the more interesting series to see how the same concept is taken in very different directions.
jeremyd99 on 2/5/2012 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
that cool what her name? i think that alot of modern filmmakers are horrible when all a filmmaker does is try to make money he's bound to fail but when he want's to make art and something truly wonderful with money set aside now you have something im sure even you or me could make up a better film than say Michael Bay or Bret Ranter
shane24 on Mar 20 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
It says that I've seen 83% of your list. I probably enjoyed 80% of those movies. I think you have a great list!
Seb on Mar 22 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
Cheers mate, your list is huge! A lot of great, popular movies on there. Cool to see kick ass in your top five, immensely awesome movie!
shane24 on Mar 22 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
Funny coincidence, I'm currently watching The Lives of others. The next movie i'm watching is Take Shelter, those are the two highest movies on your list that I haven't seen. I just found that strange.
I love There Will Be Blood. Great choice, I have it at number 96 , but considering I have seen a lot of movies I consider tha quite high. My enjoyment with the movies on my list goes well into the 1000's. But anything in or over the 2000 mark is getting into the hating and loathing section of my list. How do you do yours? Do you have all the movies you've seen? Or all your favorites, excluding the bad films? There seems to be a few different ways that flickchart is used. To each there own.
Seb on Mar 25 Reply · Like · (1 like)
Yeah, I'm still in my teens shane, im quite young. My list is probably about 80% of all the movies I've seen. About 2 to 300 of them would be pretty average. Rom-coms, bad action films etc. I only really got into movies 3 years ago so I still need a lot of time to get anywhere near how many movies you've seen. And yeah, I'm actually studying the lives of others in my English studies class at school ATM. Good movie, take shelter is quite good as well, I only saw that a couple of weeks ago
jeremyd99 on Apr 2 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
Hey hope I'm not bothering you but I'm glad to see The Tree of Life at #3 because after a second viewing I decided to re rank as my #1. I think it's the most beautiful and provocative piece of art ever made. It is very underrated. Also on The Shawshank Redemption I've never seen the whole thing,I've only seen it on T.V. but found it very corny but can't criticize it until I've watched it as a whole but all in all great list talk to you later thnx!
jeremyd99 on Apr 5 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
Twanks for the comment. The Tree of Life in my opinion is better than 2001. Also I just watched Pan's Labyrinth for the second time and loved it mssg me back
Seb on Apr 5 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
I really like pans labyrinth, but I don't love it. There are certain scenes in it that were emotionally arresting and really took my breath away. But i felt that the fantastical element of the film was scarcely explored. I was hoping for a little more of it. IMO, it's a flawed film. But I will revisit it soon and see if it improves. I've seen it twice
jeremyd99 on Apr 6 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
Yeah it's not for everybody ecspecially casual film fans (which you are not though) but maybe another viewing will help. It's a very allegorical film but it just may not be your thing that's fine. I still love your Top 10. I am about to see Babel which looks great. I haven't seen all your movies but quite a bit of them. I don't have many films ranked on my flickchart just because I haven't updated it. There Will Be Blood is a great choice and very original. Daniel Day Lewis gave one of my favorite performances ever. It also had amazing cinematography. I cant't believe it didn't win Best Picture at The Oscars. Not that No Country For Old Men was bad but There Will Be Blood is a frekin masterpiece. The Academy Awards are terrible!!!! Ecspecially this year Octavia Spencer winning and Jonah Hill being nominated. Also as much as I loved The Artist I can't see how they picked it over The Tree of Life at all. Also Hugo winning cinematography over The Tree of Life!!!! I just don't understand award shows! Cannes Film Festival is much better if you wanna check it out.
Seb on Apr 7 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
yeah, i understood the allegorical undertones in pan's labyrinth, i just felt that it didnt have good pacing. i will give it another viewing. babel is a film that i only slightly liked the first time i saw it. i felt that, as a whole, it didnt work smoothly and that the fractured narrative structure crippled the films pacing. its a very hard film to recommend. it has taken me over 5 viewings to completely appreciate and understand the importance of babel. you obviously appreciate the aesthetic of filmmaking. well, babel is an artistic triumph. the imagery and music score is unforgettable, some scenes can be paused and it looks like a painting, much like the imagery in the tree of life. the last 5-10 minutes of babel are so beautiful, arguably the best scenes of filmmaking ive ever seen. and i completely agree with you on the academy awards. although no country was great, twbb works on another level. jonah hills performance is good, but not oscar caliber! octavia's win is probably the least deserving ive ever seen. i barely noticed her in the help. she just played her role solidly. and the artist was good, but much like the kings speech's win the year before, it wasnt the best choice. the social network was robbed and the tree of life was robbed. but the academy weighs up critic and audience popularity, and everyone knows that audiences didnt repsond particularly well to the tree of life! the last films that actually deserved to win were american beauty and return of the king.
jeremyd99 on Apr 7 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
I saw all the Best Picture nominees of 2011 (other than War Horse) but over half of them didn't deserve the nomination. I can say Octavia Spencer winning an oscar is one of the worst choices ever made!! The Help is one of the most overrated pieces of shit ever!!! After my mom and her friends told me it was amazing and I should see it I automatically hated it a little. The Tree of Life is possibly the best movie ever so all I have to say is they can go fuck themselves after ignoring that masterpiece!!!!
jeremyd99 on Apr 8 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
Also on The Academy can you believe that the only award that 2001: A Space Odyssey won was best visual effects what the fucking mother fucking god of fucking fuck?!?!?!?! And after your compliments and high rating of Babel I'll definatlley see it
Seb on Apr 8 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
well i think the academy and critics somewhat learnt a lesson from 2001. if it wasnt for 2001, i believe the tree of life wouldve been even more misunderstood than it already is. the academy gave the tree of life the requisite nominations to please the arthouse crowd, but in all good logic it shouldve swept the academy awards. if it wasnt for the tree of life, 2011 wouldve been one of the weakest years in the history of cinema. the only other film that rectified the year somewhat was 'drive'. and that was only really good imo.i am yet to see melancholia though, which looks interesting. a lot of kubricks films were ahead of their time, opening to negative response but later people started to understand its genius. i really hope the tree of life will slip into the same category. i would love to prove my friends wrong. they dismissed the tree of life as pretentious when there is no pretention. the tree of life is so unironic and so sincere that people dont know what to think. people have to open their freaken minds!!! even my mum, who studied filmmaking, dismissed the tree of life and didnt give it a second viewing. i did, because on my first viewing i was completely baffled. the labels of pretentious, bloated, banal etc. are really getting on my nerves. people have mistaken the words overreaching and pretentious for ambitious and grandiose. and babel, like the tree of life, deserves multiple viewings. some of the frames in babel, i sware to god, look like the were painted by picasso. beautiful film to observe and appreciate on an artistic level. fyi, the soundtrack that plays through the last scenes and closing credits of babel is probably my favourite film score. amazing music
how old are you jeremy?
It's weird but I'm only 12!
Seb on Apr 8 Reply · Like · (1 like)
Shit! You know a lot! I only really got into films when is was 14. What country do you live in?
The sought of films on your list would indicate that you're middle aged! Haha
jeremyd99 on Apr 9 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
America. I see you changed your favorites. I first started watching movies on youtube. My first was Wild Strawberries!!
Seb on Apr 9 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
An igmar bergman film! I have never, ever heard of someone of your age understanding film so well. When I was 12 I was still obsessed with happy Gilmore, Billy Madison etc. I had absolutely no understanding of film. You must be pretty bright at school. Am I right?
Eh...I guess somewhat they've asked me to skip a grade a few times but my parents wont let me. The only that I don't like about school (other than homework) is that my one teacher hates me so it seems like she purposely gives me bad grades she is an ass! U live in America right?
Nah I live in Australia. And no, we don't ride kangaroos to school haha
I also see you put The Dark Knight in your top 10 I find it just slightly overrated but I still love it I liked Inception better.
Yeah I recently rewatched the social network and it doesn't really hold up upon repeat viewings. Don't get me wrong, it's a great movie, but once you see it a few times, you really don't need to watch it again. The dark knight on the other hand may be slightly flawed and overrated, but it is immensely rewatchable and I am thoroughly entertained every time I watch it. My top 10 seems to change everyday. My top 3 is cemented, but everything under that is interchangable. The first few times I watched the social network, I absolutely loved the dialogue, direction and acting, but watching it recently actually felt like a struggle. The dark knight is great popcorn entertainment, elevated by great acting and a decent script. I hate it when people over-alanalyse the dark knight, it's a film to be enjoyed, not deciphered.
A film you should watch is brokeback mountain, ignore the homosexual jokes that surround it. It is a truly great film. It is probably the saddest film I've ever seen as well. Once you get into it, the gay side of it doesnt matter. The acting is so good that you want these characters to be together. Ledgers performance in it matches his joker. He is so great in it.
My cousin lives in Australia and I will see it. I wnat to watch Farenhite 9/11 and Spirited Away plus The White Ribbon
Seb on Apr 10 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
Spirited away is great
jeremyd99 on Apr 10 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
I also wan't to see My Winnipeg
jeremyd99 on Apr 13 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
Thank you so much!! After I saw that you put The Dark Knight on your top 10 I realized that I had it on DVD and watched it again (last time I saw it was at least 2 years ago) and loved it. It's far from the best movie but it's definatley one of my favorites if not number one. I mean Wow it rivals The Tree of Life for me!!!!
Seb on Apr 14 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
It is pretty damn good
jeremyd99 on Apr 15 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
Another bad choice Slumdog Millionare winning best picture over TDK not even npminated
Seb on Apr 15 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
That was completely ludicrous. I can think of about 5 films that year that were better than slum dog that weren't even nominated. Doubt, the wrestler, revolutionary road, synecdoche new York etc.
jeremyd99 on Apr 25 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
Hey i just watched The King's Speech and The Social Network (the King's speech for the first time and the latter for at least the third). Which one do I like better? Thats tough to say since they are both amazing but I'd probably give a slight edge to The Social Network even though it's very flawed I can also call it perfect but IDK I love them bot h alot Inception is a good one to maybe I'll rewatch that soon.
Also everyone will hate me for this but I don't give a fuck I just wanted to say I thought Jessie Eisenberg's performance was much better than Colin Firth's even though his was great.
Seb on Apr 26 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
I completely agree
jeremyd99 on May 5 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
I talked to a production company about producing a film which we'll start working on it soon. It's about an antisocial boy whose house catches fire which turns him to dust only to reincarnate him into a new world were all the people in his life live. the world is in a tiny house out in the wheat fields. Though the house is very small on the outside it huge on the inside but a huge storm of an unknown orgin threates to destroy it. It has no name and it will be years before its release what do you think.
Seb on May 6 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
Sounds good, how did u become a part of this?
jeremyd99 on May 8 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
I just asked a company if they wanted to produce it and they said yes besides I will work for free I told them I don't want any money
Seb on May 8 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
so you're 12 and a company has agreed to produce your movie...
Yes sir
Im also trying to get one produced depicting the creation of the earth and a depiction of Adam and Eve using sex and temptation as the main themes. It wont have any religous message just a story.
jeremyd99 on May 14 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
What are ur top 5 filmmakers
Seb on May 14 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
in no particular order: these are 6-stanley kubrick-david lynch-terrence malick-paul thomas anderson-christopher nolan-martin scorsese
Also I see The Tree of Life has moved up on your list which is great right now my Flickchart list has no validity. I will change it soon. For me I think the toughest decision ever in film is do I like The Tree of Life or 2001 A Space Odyssey. These films broke new ground no other films ever have and probably ever will. I both have special places for them but I just don't Im gonna try to watch em back to back to decide.
Seb on May 15 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
hey, ive set myself a goal to watch all of ingmar bergman's films. i see that you have wild strawberrys and the seventh seal in your top 10. tell me, do they hold up considering theyre 50 plus years old? are they still awesome to watch now?
and i also see that 'where the wild things are' has come out of no where and stolen top spot on ur list! i was going to watch it the other day but i decided against it. tell me, why should i watch 'where the wild things are'? is it really that great?
jeremyd99 on May 15 Reply · Like · (0 likes)
Okay first of all Bergman is by far not only my favorite filmmaker but he's also the very best. His films hold up better than anything else. And also My "Top 10" isn't exactly up to date. The Dark Knight most certainly should not be up there and I don't know think Where The Wild Things is my favorite either ( like I said 2001 is). But I love it and it's one of the best films made in years it is a philisophical beauty. I don't think its my number one anymore but it actually easily could be. I can't explain why I like it but I would fucking watch it!!!!!
Ok I updated my list there go check it out
jeremyd99 on Friday Reply · Like · (0 likes)
So have you seen any yet
Also I just recently read that Rodger Ebert put The Tree of Life in his top 10 movies ever. I'm proud of him it was a bold choie but the film is that good
Seb on Saturday Reply · Like · (0 likes)
yeah i stumbled across that article only a few hours after it was published. its awesome to see, but i dont understand why he put it in there because it was his 3rd fave film of last year, behind 'shame' and 'a separation'. how can he put it 3rd then put it on his 10 favourite movies of all time? roger works in mysterious ways. and no, i havent got around to them yet, been buried in homework the last week. the joys of year 12 life i guess...but ill have a lot of time on my hands once the year is over
and have you seen the seventh seal? considering your love for bergman, im curious to know whether you've seen it or not?
jeremyd99 on Saturday Reply · Like · (0 likes)
Yes I have its in my top 10
haha sorry didnt see it there
have you seen persona?
Did you see Where The Wild Thing Are
no i have not
Yes ive seen Persona its my third favorite of his films
Seb on Sunday Reply · Like · (0 likes)
why have u only ranked 54 movies? you must've seen more than 54 movies in your life! and all of them a decent films, haven't you seen a bad movie before? haha
